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Chen Ping · Post by **Chen Ping** » Fri May 20, 2005 12:47 pm

Xiang Zhuang wrote:While I haven't got a reply from Kymvir yet about this, I am curious to see what those not-in-staff think about a GMNPC like this:

Peng Yue - 93-89-82-73-61 Administrator I, Aid I, Ambush III, Confuse III, Dash II, Duelist, Jeer I, Maneuver II, Raid II, Raze I, Scout II, Spy I

The stats are Command, Might, Intellect, Judgement, and Charisma, in that order. He will definitely be one of the top 10 NPC's in the game, and will be a GMNPC. Is he too good, though? He has at least 17 SP worth of skills (not counting the level 3 part, which players can't start out with), and his stats are probably 20 points or so higher than a player can get at sign-up.

There should be at least a few NPCs who have considerably better stats and skills than the players, so I don't believe Peng is too good.

Post by **Kymvir Raemiz** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:11 pm

Well, as far as NPCs go, there are about 200-225 NPCs we have been able to pull from the book. We'll probably throw in some generated NPCs if that proves to be too small a number.

The top five generals of the time period have to be Xiang Yu, Han Xin, Qing Bu, Peng Yue and Zhang Han, in that order. (Liu Bang and Xiang Liang are close behind.)

The top five Advisors of the time period are Xiao He, Zhang Liang, Chen Ping, Li Si and Fan Zeng, in that order.

I'm thinking that crew of 10, plus a few others(Liu Bang, Xiang Liang, maybe Zhao Gao) will be superior to PCs to start. The rest will be equal or less.

I don't think a crew of 10-15 is that out of hand.

Xiang Zhuang · Post by **Xiang Zhuang** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:25 pm

I agree with Kymvir's order there pretty much

I might question the order of Xiao He, Zhang Liang, and Chen Ping, but really, they just had different roles.

Peng Yue's current statline outshines Qing Bu's, but Peng Yue's skills are more guerrilla-type skills. When we do Qing Bu's, I'm sure he'll end up with some monstrous ones. I do think it is funny that in Qing Bu's chapter it mentions that Han Xin, Qing Bu, and Peng Yue all earned equal merit in battle, and that we have them all right there.

These 5 generals will be the only guys you'll see with 90's+ Command. Likewise, there will be few 90's Int stats outside of those people listed, and maybe not even all of them (Xiao He, for example, whose bio I've just posted in the staff hall

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Shi Zhi Mi · Post by **Shi Zhi Mi** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:39 pm

What about Lu Buwei? Shouldn't he have a 90+ int as well?

Xiang Zhuang · Post by **Xiang Zhuang** » Fri May 20, 2005 1:43 pm

Lu Buwei was dead by the time that we are starting the sim. I don't have the Qin volume with me, but I believe he was killed by Ying Zheng (his son, hehe), and the sim is being placed shortly after the start of Chen She's rebellion. Ying Huhai was on the throne then, so it's a few years afterward.

I could see him possibly having 90's for Int, though. It was more his Judgement that was lacking (sleeping with the Queen Dowager, etc.). I love that Lao Ai stuff, though.

Georgie · Post by **Georgie** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:55 pm

'Kay. Check the biographies page.

I see copies of Xiang Tuo after three names (in their links), including his own.

I'm obviously insane. No way one of you guys could make such a mistake.

Xiang Zhuang · Post by **Xiang Zhuang** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:56 pm

I noticed that too

I think ann copied the link and his name got copied too, cause he gets linked to Xiang Yu's bio on the 3rd one. Thanks for saying something about it...I had already forgot.

Post by **ann** » Sun May 22, 2005 4:57 pm

I'm sure I did ... so which three names?

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Cao Chao · Post by **Cao Chao** » Sun May 22, 2005 5:19 pm

The link to Chen Ying's bio doesn't work and if you need help with biographies, especially with Han Gaozu's officers, I could definitely help out.

Xiang Zhuang wrote:Lu Buwei was dead by the time that we are starting the sim. I don't have the Qin volume with me, but I believe he was killed by Ying Zheng (his son, hehe), and the sim is being placed shortly after the start of Chen She's rebellion. Ying Huhai was on the throne then, so it's a few years afterward.

Ying Zheng ordered Lu Buwei to commit suicide by drinking poisoned wine. As a symbol of love and devotion to the Emperor aka his bastard son, Lu Buwei drank the wine and died.

Lu Buwei's death served as a symbol of self-sacrifice of parents for the welfare and future of their sons. Today, the death serves to remind the children of parents to remember all the sacrifices their parents might have made.

Post by **ann** » Sun May 22, 2005 5:21 pm

Fixed the link! Thanks for posting that

I'm just posting the bios as they are given to me so I better let someone else address which are not done at all yet.

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