Feedback and Suggestions

[KvChaos]

Since some player could have multiple account (even if it is not honest and legal...) it is very easy to get recruit by a ruler and have a free spy that can take all the info they need... I think we should restrict at least the KT to the one the ruler choose. It is something to be part of an army but it is something else than having all the military and civil information on that kingdom...

I think it is normal to have someone that could be hire to spy on you but once he his hire in a kingdom he could say that he spy so he will have some information that you cant have when you do a regular spy in your KT...

I wish I can quote ZhangGao's post about having spies here, sadly the PH on the other end has been taken off.

Basically there's different kinds of spy. Those leaking KT is of the lowest level. To name a higher level kind of spy, they will work to influence the ruler into making a wrong decision. Conclusion: Spying KT info isn't a big deal.

[Cao Chao]

Being on the receiving end of some of the sabotaging and what not, helping to run Fusu's kingdom, I was curious as to how interception of sabotage efforts are calculated.

In the case of Fusu's kingdom, Xianyang was targeted by an arsonist. At the same time, Xianyang has a substantial garrison force. I was curious as to if the formula for sabotage attempts takes into account the presence of a garrison in the town/city.

[Liu Kang]

Id have to say this game is the best ever Sim out their, however, the one flaw i see in it is when the PA fun is over with, im not saying this game aint fun anymore, but it was way more fun with PA's...
You guys might wanna allow players to keep a PA, maybe limit it even more if your part of a kingdom, since in truth i dont see why you cant, i mean if i was to join with a lord when i used to be a bandit or something, then i doubt my band wanna simply be forgotten and joint into the lords army, therefore maybe limit Kingdom Player PA's to about 500...
Ofcourse if your lord ever wants to use your PA he has to have your permission, plus it'd creat great fun since this would equal more overthrowing and all that...

Sorry if this has already been suggested...
Id also like to make the suggestion that the game needs a teency weency bit more KT related skills... Maybe a few more KT actions aswell...

[GoGo the Monkey]

Id have to say this game is the best ever Sim out their, however, the one flaw i see in it is when the PA fun is over with, im not saying this game aint fun anymore, but it was way more fun with PA's...
You guys might wanna allow players to keep a PA, maybe limit it even more if your part of a kingdom, since in truth i dont see why you cant, i mean if i was to join with a lord when i used to be a bandit or something, then i doubt my band wanna simply be forgotten and joint into the lords army, therefore maybe limit Kingdom Player PA's to about 500...
Ofcourse if your lord ever wants to use your PA he has to have your permission, plus it'd creat great fun since this would equal more overthrowing and all that...

Sorry if this has already been suggested...
Id also like to make the suggestion that the game needs a teency weency bit more KT related skills... Maybe a few more KT actions aswell...

I don't see a point to PA's at all past the initial starting point. Aside from acting as mere personal armies. But what would you even do with them? Aside from using them as bodyguards, or plotting, they're pointless. You can simply borrow troops from your lord if you needed 99% of the time.

You talk about it equaling out to more people 'overthrowing' their lord, but that is highly unlikely. With the limit you've set down at 500 men, even with seven officers that is only 3,500 men banded together. Rulers on the other hand are averaging about 3 armies with 20-30k in each army. I don't see anyone rebelling successfully with just a pure PA army. They'd need to win over some of the support of the standing armies as well. Which means, hey, look, PA's are useless in that aspect. Unless you just want to count them as an extra 500 man bolster.

[Liu Kang]

I dont know about you but if i planned to overthrow my lord id get close to him, lock up and take him hostage in the palace, with 3500 troops in the palace thats more then plenty, held up with the use of Palace walls, and a good hostage, escape is almost certain...
Plus its their for RP purposes, its just something you wanna have, its well... just a thrill to have...
I originally wanted to say 2000 anyway, but thats probably a definate no...

[Brother Dun]

Good luck getting 3500 troops into the palace. I'm pretty sure your ruler would not allow that many armed soldiers that are not under his direct employ into his palace. Hell, I'm pretty sure the ruler wouldn't even let 3500 armed men, or even 3500 people in general, into his palace.

There's really no need to keep PAs around once you join a ruler. And if you want troops to use in an overthrow plot, there's always bribery and simply buying out the lord's troops.

[ann]

If you gain the confidence of your ruler, get posted in a position in control of his or her garrisons or field army, you could, eventually, lead the troops in rebellion.

[Liu Kang]

Then if what you say is true, then how can it hurt, all it will do is satisfy the lust of generals who want their own troops...

I would be one of them!

[Mikal]

Then if what you say is true, then how can it hurt, all it will do is satisfy the lust of generals who want their own troops...

I would be one of them!

As would I.

Plus, a PA could be considered a personal bodyguard unit if small enough, relieving some of the cost for such things for rulers, as the officer himself would have to pay for their costs.

In addition, the NPC limit for a PC could be used as the commander of that bodyguard unit for those... shall we say "physically challenged" PCs who might fear death by plot at every turn.

Being able to have a PA act as a bodyguard unit with their NPC as the commander of it could aid in that.

On the flip side, a ruler who has an officer with a PA could use it as a 'secret society' type for... dirty tricks and the like. Or spies. etc, each of which, since NOT part of the KT, could be used for plausible denibility incidents.

By allowing that, and not having them within the KT for plots, that counts down on OOC spying, since an OOC/PH spy would have no ability to send these along.

ETA: For those who claim this gives extra KT actions for a ruler, since the PA cannot by the rules do spying or assassinations as part of a PT, all such actions would be plot driven.

[Liu Kang]

Couldnt have said it better myself