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Maybe thats what the world needs, someone to come around and kick their asses if they mistreat the people that they are supposed to be helping. If that was the mission statement of the Marines i would definetely join them.
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DisasterPieces
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Hmm...I think it's stupid to believe we went becuase of oil. All the money we spent and are still spending is more then what that oil is gonna give us. If we wanted oil, why didn't we fork out less cash then what we are watching whisk away every day of this war. Whether we use it to pay off a tiny amount of our debts or not it doesn't even make sense that we went for that reason.
...On a side note, if someone is abusing their kid next to your house get a little chivalry, honor, and bravery and go kick the crap out of them, don't kill them...but give them a nice beat down...Of course if the killed their kid they deserve to be killed....but yeah
...On a side note, if someone is abusing their kid next to your house get a little chivalry, honor, and bravery and go kick the crap out of them, don't kill them...but give them a nice beat down...Of course if the killed their kid they deserve to be killed....but yeah
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Spending 20$ of US government money to make 1$ of personal profit. That sound like a deal to me.
Beside I'm not sure Saddam was so bad. He was elected by his peapel and did won a the peace nobel.
http://theshredder.com/current/saddam.htm
At least if he's not good Bush isn't better to my eyes.
Beside I'm not sure Saddam was so bad. He was elected by his peapel and did won a the peace nobel.
http://theshredder.com/current/saddam.htm
At least if he's not good Bush isn't better to my eyes.
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DisasterPieces
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Yeah...becuase Bush really needs the money Huh?
Saddam wasn't so bad...He gased his own people. He made deals with terrorists. Not to mention he probably wouldn't have been in power if his soldiers weren't killing everyone who opposed him. He was pretty bad.
That website is anti-war propaganda...He was elected to try and make the U.S. back out of the war...and there was nobody to oppose becuase they were all gased and Shot.....Cursed Propaganda websites.
Saddam wasn't so bad...He gased his own people. He made deals with terrorists. Not to mention he probably wouldn't have been in power if his soldiers weren't killing everyone who opposed him. He was pretty bad.
That website is anti-war propaganda...He was elected to try and make the U.S. back out of the war...and there was nobody to oppose becuase they were all gased and Shot.....Cursed Propaganda websites.
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Energetic Lemur
I don't agree that Saddam wasn't bad. he was a viscious murdering dictator, and Iraq is better off without him. Likewise with the Taliban. But Bush should not be able to go around the world imposing his will on others. And i don't particularly see what gives America a special right to have WMD's. A single country should not have the power to wipe a continent off the map.
As for the whole jealousy against those in power thing, It just doesn't figure. Are you suggesting that the American people rose upagainst the English because they were jealous? That people rallied against Hitler because they wanted France for themselves? It's very patriotic, and defensive of your country, but you have got to accept that if a country is getting blamed, it's normally blame worthy.
And i personally feel that our health care is a lot more equal. Money should not decide what chance you have of living. For those who can afford a private doctor, go for it, but that does not mean the poorer people, usually the people that need it most, should be deprivedof such a base right.
As for the whole jealousy against those in power thing, It just doesn't figure. Are you suggesting that the American people rose upagainst the English because they were jealous? That people rallied against Hitler because they wanted France for themselves? It's very patriotic, and defensive of your country, but you have got to accept that if a country is getting blamed, it's normally blame worthy.
And i personally feel that our health care is a lot more equal. Money should not decide what chance you have of living. For those who can afford a private doctor, go for it, but that does not mean the poorer people, usually the people that need it most, should be deprivedof such a base right.
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We have a right to nukes because of tradition and the fact we basically evented the things back in the 40s. The term finding WMDs is very subjective, Bush had to admit he couldn't find them because the programmes had been moved to Syria and Iran while the UN was at loggerheads trying to talk their way into a solution that would please everyone.
Bush is not imposing his will on other nations, he is just following the American tradition of spreading democracy all over the globe.
As for the jealousy issue, it does stick perfectly with the Europiean mindset in regards to Pax Americana. We Americans want nothing more than open seas, free trade, and stable democratic regimes though out the world. Our methods our sometimes questionable but then again, kicking ass and not bothering to take names in a lot better than paying off these dictators to be nice in the way France has done to it's former colonies in equitorial africa.
Free Public Healthcare seems nice and dandy and all but it has it's drawbacks. It's caused serve economic stagnation in Europe that was first felt in the mid-70s which led the ECC nations to former a stronger cartel to protect their increasing uncompetitive manufacturing and agricultre industries from forigen, namely American competition. This led to the EU. The EU is not about European unity but rather weakended nations banding togther to prop up their own rotting economies from being overtaken by more efficent competition in Asia and the Americas. It still isn't working out as planned as evidenced by the Spanish free-trade area in the Canaries and France continuing to fudge EU regluations regarding debts outstanding in order to hide the fact that they are completely unable to pay back their international debt at any sensible rate due to the fact that the state has subsidised nearly every major industry. In short, the wellfare state is a silent evil. Sure it provides for all but that's only when there are governments and sources that a welfare state can borrow their money from, i.e. the USA. The welfare state with it's notion of nearly free everything has caused a sort of "It's my flecking right to the eat my cake and have it too mentality" which causes these countries populations to have ludicrious notions and fantsies about how they can end world hunger, poverty, and suffering by talking and throwing money at the problem. Like I said before, these nations don't have the money since they demands of their welfare state severly inhibit their nations ability to project their idoleogy on the world stage. These nations have taken deficit spending to an extreme that would make me the most spendy Republican blush and basically have have undertaken a porkbarrel project mentality that I fear these nations will not be able to break until their countries have completely gone into the dumper.
Bush is not imposing his will on other nations, he is just following the American tradition of spreading democracy all over the globe.
As for the jealousy issue, it does stick perfectly with the Europiean mindset in regards to Pax Americana. We Americans want nothing more than open seas, free trade, and stable democratic regimes though out the world. Our methods our sometimes questionable but then again, kicking ass and not bothering to take names in a lot better than paying off these dictators to be nice in the way France has done to it's former colonies in equitorial africa.
Free Public Healthcare seems nice and dandy and all but it has it's drawbacks. It's caused serve economic stagnation in Europe that was first felt in the mid-70s which led the ECC nations to former a stronger cartel to protect their increasing uncompetitive manufacturing and agricultre industries from forigen, namely American competition. This led to the EU. The EU is not about European unity but rather weakended nations banding togther to prop up their own rotting economies from being overtaken by more efficent competition in Asia and the Americas. It still isn't working out as planned as evidenced by the Spanish free-trade area in the Canaries and France continuing to fudge EU regluations regarding debts outstanding in order to hide the fact that they are completely unable to pay back their international debt at any sensible rate due to the fact that the state has subsidised nearly every major industry. In short, the wellfare state is a silent evil. Sure it provides for all but that's only when there are governments and sources that a welfare state can borrow their money from, i.e. the USA. The welfare state with it's notion of nearly free everything has caused a sort of "It's my flecking right to the eat my cake and have it too mentality" which causes these countries populations to have ludicrious notions and fantsies about how they can end world hunger, poverty, and suffering by talking and throwing money at the problem. Like I said before, these nations don't have the money since they demands of their welfare state severly inhibit their nations ability to project their idoleogy on the world stage. These nations have taken deficit spending to an extreme that would make me the most spendy Republican blush and basically have have undertaken a porkbarrel project mentality that I fear these nations will not be able to break until their countries have completely gone into the dumper.
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Energetic Lemur
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Energetic Lemur
Hey,you have the right to bear giant guns. By all means built a 50 foot magnum, I'd love to see it.
But seriously just because the legal doccument that you have the right to bear arms in America is sacred there, it doesn't mean it's a valid excuse in the rest of the world. A centuries old set of laws is hardly valid now in the ever changing spectrum of international politics.
But seriously just because the legal doccument that you have the right to bear arms in America is sacred there, it doesn't mean it's a valid excuse in the rest of the world. A centuries old set of laws is hardly valid now in the ever changing spectrum of international politics.