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Tactic balance

Postby Phailak » Wed May 10, 2017 2:19 pm

Good ideas floating in the chat following Cao Ren battle.

Things to consider

Make Supplies affect Attack UP TO 50% of it's value, can't go below.
Make morale affect defense on top of speed and effectiveness recovery. Could make it a +25 bonus to defense a la training?
Revert back to supplies being toned down in 5s, so level 1 -5, level 2 - 10, level 3 -15
Should att and def tactics go back to % as opposed to straight bonuses? Charge giving +30 is less impressive than +30%

I'm sure I forgot some, post here please

EDIT: Faze / Confuse issue: viewtopic.php?p=181072#p181072

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Chinka » Wed May 10, 2017 2:25 pm

A set number vs percentage depends. The 30 percent is better if base attack is above 100.

Otherwise all other points seem valid.

Edit: nvm misread original sentence we seem to agree. Percentage greater than set number. Which makes those kinda tactics more attractive vs. Morale and supply dickery

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Shen Feng » Wed May 10, 2017 2:29 pm

Here's an idea that would require some thinking, at least. One of the biggest reasons that supply is so important right now is because tactics affecting it persist from turn to turn. So rather than toning supply attacks down a lot, why not expand other tactics to work similarly?

Supply should still be toned down even with that, but things like Charge and Rupture become much more appealing if, instead of applying an up to 30 point boost or penalty to a single layer for a single turn, they would apply that boost or penalty for the rest of the battle. If you code supply attacks to only modify the base attack value and ignore other outside modifications, then with enough use of things like Charge and Volley, you could overpower the reduction from Raid/Poison. Suddenly, multiple builds become effective again.

It's worth thinking about, at least.

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby BJR » Wed May 10, 2017 2:45 pm

Supplies should be more of a factor than standard battle tactics. Then again, lack of supplies shouldnt effect attack immediately. If you lost half your supplies, nobody would be starving. Once supplies reach 0, then the penalties should be severe and start effecting attack exponentially every turn they remain at 0 up to the max of having 0 attack.

That or turn supplies into an auto defeat including capture rolls, and remove it from the attack equation all together.

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Chinka » Wed May 10, 2017 2:54 pm

Disagree, I think the simple nerfing of supply reducing troop effectiveness from 100 percent to 50 percent keeps the skill relevant but not the only thing that matters.

Though the only argument I see simply means it's a different version of rupture.

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Phailak » Wed May 10, 2017 3:11 pm

I like the idea of keeping all tactics 'active' for whole battle, issue is it's a bit of a logic change (actually easier to code like this than a hard reset each turn but now that the current way is in place...) so not sure how easily I can implement it.

I like the idea of penalties coming in once supplies are down but big issue with that is we only go 6 engagements, doubt the investment would be worth it

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Phailak » Wed May 10, 2017 3:15 pm

Adding another issue to the OP

Faze and Confuse target an officer, never liked the fact that it was like that and now just realized it's an actual issue because you don't know which officers the other will use if they are over 10 so you might target someone not in battle.

I'd like to find a way to streamline them so they are against layers instead of officers. Maybe faze reduce eff of ALL opposing officers, Confuse reduces support? Would that be too powerful? So like 5-10-15 against 1-10 officers is way too strong right? Yet is 1-3-5 too weak? 2-4-6?

Another option is to put it to 5-10-15 BUT each defending officer against the tactic gets a test? But that would require some logical change and I rather not.

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Phailak » Wed May 10, 2017 5:55 pm

Example of 50% min for supplies using Cao Ren battle, what do you guys think (not official rerun):

(I didn't look myself, ran this just before supper, sorry for format manual battles suck)

Attacker's challenge is refused, loss of 10 morale for defenders!


Battle results Part 1

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 4890 2851 100 54 187 4890 173 1618 178 177 146
Defenders 4500 1500 100 36 195 4500 220 1500 170 204 127

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 100
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 100
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 100
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 100
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 100
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 100
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 100
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 100
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 100
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 100
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 100
Zhang He's efficiency is at 100
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 100
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 100
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Huang Liao fails to use Deride 2 (had 47% chance to succeed, got 63)
Ce Canhuang succeeds to use Deride 1 (had 76% chance to succeed, got 42) to lower opp support morale by 10
Cao Ren fails to use Discipline 3 (had 77% chance to succeed, got 79)
Mao MaRen succeeds to use Discipline 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 15) to raise own soldiers morale by 20
Ma Dieu succeeds to use Raid 3 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 33) to lower opp support supplies by 30
Fang Han fails to use Escort 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 87)
Re Ben succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 34) to lower opp support supplies by 20
Fei Lai succeeds to use Escort 2 (had 62% chance to succeed, got 61) to raise own army supplies by 20
Jie Juetie succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 87% chance to succeed, got 19) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Pan Shaozu succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 41% chance to succeed, got 28) to lower opp support supplies by 20
Shen Feng succeeds to use Guard 2 (had 46% chance to succeed, got 1) to raise own army supplies by 20
Xiahou Dun succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 12) to lower opp support supplies by 20
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 50) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 66) to lower opp support supplies by 20
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 12% chance to succeed, got 92)
Luo Ou fails to use Guard 1 (had 57% chance to succeed, got 78)
Xu Huang succeeds to use Charge 3 (had 87% chance to succeed, got 17) to raise own melee attack by 30 (157)
Zhang He fails to use Rupture 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 96)
Kuan Dun succeeds to use Faze 1 (had 89% chance to succeed, got 29) to lower opp officer (Mao MaRen) effectivness by 10
Ban Dong fails to use Aid 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 31)

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 4890 2851 90 54 179 4890 165 1618 178 177 146
Defenders 4500 1500 20 46 157 4500 142 1500 170 204 127



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 267 casualties to their Melee layer, 267 armaments were lost, Defender now has 4233 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5733 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 674 casualties to their Melee layer, 674 armaments were lost, Defender now has 3559 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5059 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 119 casualties to their Melee layer, 119 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 4771 soldiers left in Melee layer, 7622 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 498 casualties to their Melee layer, 498 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 4273 soldiers left in Melee layer, 7124 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 17 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 15 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 22 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 20 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 20 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 18 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 16 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 10 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 14 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 13 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 15 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 70
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 89
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 91
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 88
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 88
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 87
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 100
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 100
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 72
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 72
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 92
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 90
Zhang He's efficiency is at 90
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 78
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 95
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Battle results Part 2

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 4273 2851 90 54 179 4273 165 1618 178 177 132
Defenders 3559 1500 20 46 127 3559 142 1500 170 204 28

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 70
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 89
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 91
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 88
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 88
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 87
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 100
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 100
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 72
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 72
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 92
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 90
Zhang He's efficiency is at 90
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 78
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 95
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Huang Liao succeeds to use Deride 1 (had 43% chance to succeed, got 20) to lower opp support morale by 9
Mao MaRen succeeds to use Discipline 2 (had 72% chance to succeed, got 31) to raise own soldiers morale by 16
Fang Han succeeds to use Escort 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 24) to raise own army supplies by 10
Re Ben succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 79% chance to succeed, got 71) to lower opp support supplies by 9
Fei Lai succeeds to use Escort 2 (had 54% chance to succeed, got 9) to raise own army supplies by 17
Jie Juetie succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 87% chance to succeed, got 61) to lower opp support supplies by 20
Shen Feng succeeds to use Guard 2 (had 40% chance to succeed, got 1) to raise own army supplies by 18
Xiahou Dun succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 71) to lower opp support supplies by 18
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 2) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 80) to lower opp support supplies by 18
Ban Dong fails to use Guard 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 85)
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 11% chance to succeed, got 35)
Zhang He succeeds to use Rupture 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 66) to lower opp melee defense by 18 (160)
Luo Ou succeeds to use Barricade 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 19) to raise own support defense by 10 (214)
Kuan Dun fails to use Faze 1 (had 89% chance to succeed, got 95)
Pan Shaozu fails to use Succor 1 (had 69% chance to succeed, got 85)
Ce Canhuang fails to use Aid 2 (had 17% chance to succeed, got 47)
Cao Ren fails to use Aid 2 (had 42% chance to succeed, got 96)
Xu Huang fails to use Aid 1 (had 32% chance to succeed, got 96)

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 4273 2851 89 54 178 4273 164 1618 160 177 132
Defenders 3559 1500 0 53 110 3559 123 1500 170 214 28



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 272 casualties to their Melee layer, 272 armaments were lost, Defender now has 3287 soldiers left in Melee layer, 4787 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 556 casualties to their Melee layer, 556 armaments were lost, Defender now has 2731 soldiers left in Melee layer, 4231 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 114 casualties to their Melee layer, 114 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 4159 soldiers left in Melee layer, 7010 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 337 casualties to their Melee layer, 337 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3822 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6673 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 18 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 16 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 23 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 21 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 21 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 19 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 17 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 11 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 15 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 16 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 16 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 85
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 93
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 97
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 91
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 76
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 74
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 86
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 87
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 60
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 75
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 85
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 81
Zhang He's efficiency is at 81
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 67
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 91
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Battle results Part 3

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3822 2851 89 54 178 3822 164 1618 178 177 131
Defenders 2731 1500 0 53 110 2731 123 1500 170 204 0

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 85
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 93
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 97
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 91
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 76
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 74
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 86
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 87
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 60
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 75
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 85
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 81
Zhang He's efficiency is at 81
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 67
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 91
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Ce Canhuang fails to use Deride 1 (had 65% chance to succeed, got 78)
Mao MaRen fails to use Discipline 2 (had 62% chance to succeed, got 83)
Ma Dieu succeeds to use Raid 3 (had 77% chance to succeed, got 2) to lower opp support supplies by 26
Fang Han succeeds to use Escort 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 9) to raise own army supplies by 10
Re Ben succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 82% chance to succeed, got 43) to lower opp support supplies by 18
Fei Lai fails to use Escort 2 (had 46% chance to succeed, got 61)
Jie Juetie succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 76% chance to succeed, got 3) to lower opp support supplies by 9
Shen Feng fails to use Guard 2 (had 35% chance to succeed, got 59)
Xiahou Dun succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 81) to lower opp support supplies by 16
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 33) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 83) to lower opp support supplies by 17
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 11% chance to succeed, got 52)
Luo Ou succeeds to use Guard 1 (had 57% chance to succeed, got 41) to raise own army supplies by 10
Xu Huang succeeds to use Charge 3 (had 65% chance to succeed, got 43) to raise own melee attack by 23 (133)
Zhang He succeeds to use Rupture 2 (had 87% chance to succeed, got 53) to lower opp melee defense by 16 (162)
Kuan Dun succeeds to use Faze 1 (had 89% chance to succeed, got 12) to lower opp officer (Mao MaRen) effectivness by 10
Pan Shaozu succeeds to use Succor 2 (had 72% chance to succeed, got 45) to raise own officer (Shen Feng) effectivness by 19
Huang Liao succeeds to use Aid 1 (had 33% chance to succeed, got 32) to raise own officer (Fei Lai) effectivness by 10
Cao Ren fails to use Aid 2 (had 49% chance to succeed, got 97)
Ban Dong fails to use Aid 1 (had 19% chance to succeed, got 80)

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3822 2851 56 54 151 3822 138 1618 162 177 131
Defenders 2731 1500 0 53 133 2731 123 1500 170 204 0



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 229 casualties to their Melee layer, 229 armaments were lost, Defender now has 2502 soldiers left in Melee layer, 4002 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 380 casualties to their Melee layer, 380 armaments were lost, Defender now has 2122 soldiers left in Melee layer, 3622 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 111 casualties to their Melee layer, 111 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3711 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6562 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 342 casualties to their Melee layer, 342 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3369 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6220 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 18 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 16 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 23 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 21 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 21 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 19 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 17 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 11 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 15 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 16 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 16 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 55
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 82
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 79
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 83
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 71
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 87
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 89
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 48
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 48
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 78
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 72
Zhang He's efficiency is at 72
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 46
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 87
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Battle results Part 4

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3369 2851 56 54 151 3369 138 1618 178 177 83
Defenders 2122 1500 0 53 110 2122 123 1500 170 204 0

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 55
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 82
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 79
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 83
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 71
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 87
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 89
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 48
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 48
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 78
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 72
Zhang He's efficiency is at 72
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 46
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 87
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Mao MaRen fails to use Discipline 2 (had 42% chance to succeed, got 61)
Fang Han fails to use Escort 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 70)
Re Ben fails to use Raid 1 (had 71% chance to succeed, got 77)
Fei Lai fails to use Escort 2 (had 44% chance to succeed, got 57)
Jie Juetie succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 77% chance to succeed, got 31) to lower opp support supplies by 18
Shen Feng fails to use Guard 2 (had 38% chance to succeed, got 64)
Xiahou Dun succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 82% chance to succeed, got 30) to lower opp support supplies by 14
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 8) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 47) to lower opp support supplies by 16
Ban Dong fails to use Guard 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 32)
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 17)
Zhang He fails to use Rupture 2 (had 78% chance to succeed, got 89)
Luo Ou fails to use Barricade 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 93)
Kuan Dun succeeds to use Faze 1 (had 89% chance to succeed, got 19) to lower opp officer (Mao MaRen) effectivness by 10
Pan Shaozu succeeds to use Succor 1 (had 63% chance to succeed, got 48) to raise own officer (Shen Feng) effectivness by 8
Huang Liao fails to use Aid 1 (had 34% chance to succeed, got 73)
Ce Canhuang fails to use Aid 2 (had 15% chance to succeed, got 51)
Cao Ren fails to use Aid 2 (had 28% chance to succeed, got 30)
Xu Huang fails to use Aid 1 (had 22% chance to succeed, got 25)

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3369 2851 16 54 119 3369 106 1618 178 177 83
Defenders 2122 1500 0 53 110 2122 123 1500 170 204 0



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 176 casualties to their Melee layer, 176 armaments were lost, Defender now has 1946 soldiers left in Melee layer, 3446 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 264 casualties to their Melee layer, 264 armaments were lost, Defender now has 1682 soldiers left in Melee layer, 3182 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 102 casualties to their Melee layer, 102 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3267 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6118 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 205 casualties to their Melee layer, 205 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3062 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5913 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 18 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 16 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 23 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 21 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 21 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 19 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 17 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 11 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 15 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 16 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 17 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 16 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 70
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 86
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 82
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 79
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 58
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 73
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 76
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 36
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 51
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 71
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 63
Zhang He's efficiency is at 63
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 25
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 83
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Battle results Part 5

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3062 2851 16 54 119 3062 106 1618 178 177 24
Defenders 1682 1500 0 53 110 1682 123 1500 170 204 0

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 70
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 86
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 82
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 79
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 58
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 73
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 76
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 36
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 51
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 71
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 63
Zhang He's efficiency is at 63
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 25
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 83
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Ce Canhuang succeeds to use Deride 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 18) to lower opp support morale by 7
Mao MaRen succeeds to use Discipline 2 (had 23% chance to succeed, got 8) to raise own soldiers morale by 5
Ma Dieu fails to use Raid 3 (had 64% chance to succeed, got 100)
Fang Han fails to use Escort 1 (had 55% chance to succeed, got 97)
Re Ben succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 74% chance to succeed, got 5) to lower opp support supplies by 16
Fei Lai succeeds to use Escort 2 (had 36% chance to succeed, got 15) to raise own army supplies by 12
Jie Juetie fails to use Raid 1 (had 66% chance to succeed, got 71)
Shen Feng fails to use Guard 2 (had 36% chance to succeed, got 86)
Xiahou Dun fails to use Raid 2 (had 72% chance to succeed, got 76)
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 41) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 83% chance to succeed, got 63) to lower opp support supplies by 14
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 32)
Luo Ou fails to use Guard 1 (had 57% chance to succeed, got 71)
Xu Huang succeeds to use Charge 3 (had 44% chance to succeed, got 27) to raise own melee attack by 15 (125)
Zhang He succeeds to use Rupture 2 (had 68% chance to succeed, got 62) to lower opp melee defense by 13 (165)
Kuan Dun succeeds to use Faze 1 (had 89% chance to succeed, got 79) to lower opp officer (Mao MaRen) effectivness by 10
Pan Shaozu fails to use Succor 2 (had 66% chance to succeed, got 73)
Huang Liao fails to use Aid 1 (had 34% chance to succeed, got 94)
Cao Ren fails to use Aid 2 (had 20% chance to succeed, got 95)
Ban Dong fails to use Aid 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 61)

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3062 2851 4 54 109 3062 97 1618 165 177 24
Defenders 1682 1500 0 51 125 1682 123 1500 170 204 0



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 160 casualties to their Melee layer, 160 armaments were lost, Defender now has 1522 soldiers left in Melee layer, 3022 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 199 casualties to their Melee layer, 199 armaments were lost, Defender now has 1323 soldiers left in Melee layer, 2823 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 103 casualties to their Melee layer, 103 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 2959 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5810 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 227 casualties to their Melee layer, 227 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 2732 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5583 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 17 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 15 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 22 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 20 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 20 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 18 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 16 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 10 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 14 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 13 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 15 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 40
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 75
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 70
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 67
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 45
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 74
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 78
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 23
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 23
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 63
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 53
Zhang He's efficiency is at 53
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 18
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 78
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Battle results Part 6

Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 2732 2851 4 54 109 2732 97 1618 178 177 6
Defenders 1323 1500 0 51 110 1323 123 1500 170 204 0

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 40
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 75
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 100
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 70
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 67
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 45
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 74
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 78
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 23
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 23
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 63
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 53
Zhang He's efficiency is at 53
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 18
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 78
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

Mao MaRen fails to use Discipline 2 (had 17% chance to succeed, got 64)
Xiahou Dun succeeds to use Raid 2 (had 60% chance to succeed, got 38) to lower opp support supplies by 11
Jiu Xue succeeds to use Raid 1 (had 90% chance to succeed, got 83) to lower opp support supplies by 10
Sima Yi succeeds to use Poison 2 (had 74% chance to succeed, got 56) to lower opp support supplies by 13
Cang Ben fails to use Poison 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 11)
Luo Ou fails to use Guard 1 (had 57% chance to succeed, got 59)
Ma Dieu fails to use Charge 2 (had 32% chance to succeed, got 59)
Fang Han succeeds to use Decoy 1 (had 78% chance to succeed, got 29) to lower opp melee attack by 10 (100)
Re Ben succeeds to use Charge 1 (had 68% chance to succeed, got 67) to raise own melee attack by 7 (113)
Fei Lai fails to use Charge 3 (had 41% chance to succeed, got 59)
Pan Shaozu succeeds to use Support 2 (had 59% chance to succeed, got 25) to raise own melee attack by 15 (128)
Shen Feng fails to use Volley 2 (had 23% chance to succeed, got 72)
Cao Ren fails to use Charge 1 (had 21% chance to succeed, got 73)
Xu Huang fails to use Charge 3 (had 20% chance to succeed, got 96)
Jie Juetie succeeds to use Rupture 1 (had 66% chance to succeed, got 58) to lower opp melee defense by 8 (162)
Kuan Dun succeeds to use Wall 1 (had 70% chance to succeed, got 49) to raise own melee defense by 10 (188)
Huang Liao succeeds to use Scout 3 (had 66% chance to succeed, got 36) to lower opp melee defense by 30 (132)
Zhang He succeeds to use Rupture 2 (had 57% chance to succeed, got 20) to lower opp melee defense by 11 (177)
Ce Canhuang fails to use Aid 2 (had 13% chance to succeed, got 81)
Ban Dong succeeds to use Aid 1 (had 10% chance to succeed, got 7) to raise own officer (Cao Ren) effectivness by 10

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 2732 2851 0 54 128 2732 94 1618 177 177 6
Defenders 1323 1500 0 51 100 1323 123 1500 132 204 0



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 193 casualties to their Melee layer, 193 armaments were lost, Defender now has 1130 soldiers left in Melee layer, 2630 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 259 casualties to their Melee layer, 259 armaments were lost, Defender now has 871 soldiers left in Melee layer, 2371 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 102 casualties to their Melee layer, 102 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 2630 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5481 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 134 casualties to their Melee layer, 134 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 2496 soldiers left in Melee layer, 5347 total.
Ma Dieu's recuperates 15 efficiency
Chao Niu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Mang Yue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Wu Haiyao's recuperates 12 efficiency
You Meng's recuperates 12 efficiency
Zhuang Wu's recuperates 12 efficiency
Fang Han's recuperates 19 efficiency
Pan Shaozu's recuperates 19 efficiency
Huang Liao's recuperates 21 efficiency
Anguo Shuangdi's recuperates 14 efficiency
Jia Huangfu's recuperates 14 efficiency
Mei Shun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Re Ben's recuperates 18 efficiency
Xian Dun's recuperates 12 efficiency
Shen Feng's recuperates 18 efficiency
Fei Lai's recuperates 17 efficiency
Ce Canhuang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Jie Juetie's recuperates 17 efficiency
Kuan Dun's recuperates 22 efficiency
Cao Ren's recuperates 17 efficiency
Lu Qian's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Huang's recuperates 17 efficiency
Xu Shang's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Shu's recuperates 13 efficiency
Zhu Gai's recuperates 15 efficiency
Sima Yi's recuperates 22 efficiency
Xiahou Dun's recuperates 20 efficiency
Zhang He's recuperates 20 efficiency
Mao MaRen's recuperates 18 efficiency
Ban Dong's recuperates 16 efficiency
Cang Ben's recuperates 10 efficiency
Chao Jian's recuperates 14 efficiency
Gao Lue's recuperates 13 efficiency
Jiu Xue's recuperates 15 efficiency
Luo Ou's recuperates 16 efficiency
Yin Gong's recuperates 15 efficiency

Ma Dieu's efficiency is at 25
Chao Niu's efficiency is at 100
Mang Yue's efficiency is at 100
Wu Haiyao's efficiency is at 100
You Meng's efficiency is at 100
Zhuang Wu's efficiency is at 100
Fang Han's efficiency is at 100
Pan Shaozu's efficiency is at 64
Huang Liao's efficiency is at 76
Anguo Shuangdi's efficiency is at 100
Jia Huangfu's efficiency is at 100
Mei Shun's efficiency is at 100
Re Ben's efficiency is at 73
Xian Dun's efficiency is at 100
Shen Feng's efficiency is at 55
Fei Lai's efficiency is at 17
Ce Canhuang's efficiency is at 60
Jie Juetie's efficiency is at 80
Kuan Dun's efficiency is at 100
Cao Ren's efficiency is at 35
Lu Qian's efficiency is at 100
Xu Huang's efficiency is at 17
Xu Shang's efficiency is at 100
Yin Shu's efficiency is at 100
Zhu Gai's efficiency is at 100
Sima Yi's efficiency is at 55
Xiahou Dun's efficiency is at 43
Zhang He's efficiency is at 43
Mao MaRen's efficiency is at 18
Ban Dong's efficiency is at 100
Cang Ben's efficiency is at 73
Chao Jian's efficiency is at 100
Gao Lue's efficiency is at 100
Jiu Xue's efficiency is at 100
Luo Ou's efficiency is at 100
Yin Gong's efficiency is at 100

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby BJR » Wed May 10, 2017 7:31 pm

Updated stats after tactics
Army Melee Soldiers Support Soldiers Supplies Morale Melee Attack Melee Armaments Support Attack Support Armaments Melee Defense Support Defense Speed
Attackers 3822 2851 56 54 151 3822 138 1618 162 177 131
Defenders 2731 1500 0 53 133 2731 123 1500 170 204 0



Attacker's speed is higher and will strike first!

From Support layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 229 casualties to their Melee layer, 229 armaments were lost, Defender now has 2502 soldiers left in Melee layer, 4002 total.

From Melee layer, Attacker has dealt Defender 380 casualties to their Melee layer, 380 armaments were lost, Defender now has 2122 soldiers left in Melee layer, 3622 total.

From Support layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 111 casualties to their Melee layer, 111 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3711 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6562 total.

From Melee layer, Defender has dealt Attacker 342 casualties to their Melee layer, 342 armaments were lost, Attacker now has 3369 soldiers left in Melee layer, 6220 total.


With 1100 more troops, supplies at 56, compared to defenders 0, morale the same, melee attack 18 higher, and defenders melee defense only 8 higher (highlighted relavent parts), the attackers only did 38 more casualties? It seems at this point most things were close besides the supplies so it might show better what the supply difference is doing on its own.

I feel that supplies at 0 should hurt more than that.

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Re: Tactic balance

Postby Phailak » Wed May 10, 2017 9:25 pm

Well to be fair, number of troops against has no influence on results, it's about attack vs defense and how supplies affects that attack number.

That being said, comparing the attack vs defense on each side, you would think it would yield a bigger diff, will continue to test around


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